The Remarkable Journey of Healing & Entrepreneurial Victory with Kristin Rivas (RRT Facilitator)

What if you could recover from trauma quickly and painlessly?

Meet Kristin Rivas, a Hypnotist, RRT Facilitator, and Brain Health Coach. Her life was radically changed when she was diagnosed with Functional Neurological Disorder, and was told she had a slim 20% chance of recovery. But Kristin didn't take this lying down. Her search for alternative treatments led her to the powerful world of hypnotherapy and Rapid Resolution Therapy (RRT), not only bringing her back to sanity and health, but also setting the course for her life’s work.

We explore the valleys and peaks of Kristin's journey, as well as the broader landscape of grief, trauma, and healing. We take a deep look at how these experiences can impact us, and the crucial role the right kind of care can play in recovery.

With Kristin's unique perspective, we unpack the power of the mind, the effectiveness of RRT for trauma recovery. This conversation is a heartening testament to the human ability to overcome adversity, and the power of hope, determination, and professional help.

As we shift our focus to entrepreneurs, we reveal unique insights into the challenges they often face, including PTSD, trauma, and even fears around marketing. As a seasoned hypnotist and brain health coach, Kristin underscores the urgency of self-care and seeking professional help when necessary.

With perseverance and motivation, she believes entrepreneurs can not only achieve success, but also thrive and enjoy the process. So, tune in and get ready to journey through a world of resilience, recovery, and the remarkable power of the mind.

Watch her TedX Talk here.

Learn more about her / book services here.

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Transcript

Angela: 0:00

Hello and welcome to the 5D CFO podcast. My name is Angela Marie Christian and my mission is to help entrepreneurs and thought leaders rise to the 5D, where we can find wealth in all dimensions, in all areas of life. Enjoy. I'm so excited for my guest today, kristin Rivas. She specializes in helping people recover from trauma as quickly and painlessly as possible. She's a hypnotist, rrt facilitator and brain health coach. She is dedicated to helping you thrive. If you haven't checked out her TEDxTalk yet, I will link it in the show notes. It's amazing, I cried. It's beautiful. So I'm excited for you to listen to our conversation and get ready to be impressed. Thank you so.

Angela: 0:51

Welcome to the show, kristin. I'm so happy to have you here. Thanks, thanks for inviting me. I'm glad to be here, and my listeners have been hearing me rave all about RRT for some time now, and I had the pleasure of having Dr Connolly and then Andrea Crowder on my podcast over the last few months, and so I love highlighting people who are, in my view, really stand out in the RRT community. People like you and I was first introduced to you during our clinical hypnosis training, where you were the assistant teacher and I was just blown away by your story and your knowledge, especially about all the different types of hypnosis, and I was just really impressed. So I'm happy to have you here and I will make a note for my listeners to definitely check out her TEDxTalk, which is amazing. I was crying when I was watching it. It's absolutely incredible. But for those who haven't seen it, I would love for you to just share maybe how RRT came into your life and then where it has led you.

Kristin: 1:56

Yeah. So just to make sure, if people wanted to look at the TEDxTalk which goes into it I think it's a little over 20 minutes long. It's called Kristen Rivas at TEDxRenier. I'm sure you'll probably have a link or something like that. But doesn't please the story of it because I'll tell you if you're. If you're advertising yourself as a hypnotist or a hypnotherapist, where people suspect that hypnosis is involved with rapid resolution therapy, there are a lot of times people are asking like how did you get into that? So that's, it was convenient to point people toward TEDxTalk. Anyway, but the story goes like this One day I was folding laundry with a girlfriend of mine.

Kristin: 2:45

She had been a bridesmaid in my wedding. I had moved off campus. I would think I was in my sophomore year or so junior year of college. I was double majoring in missions and psychology and we were like laughing, chatting, using the campus laundry room together and I suddenly started experiencing like blurred and double vision and like brain fog. And then I had like slurred speech. She was like asking me questions but it was almost like I was having a stroke and then I literally, even though I was conscious, went blind. Like my vision disappeared. It was so odd to all the symptoms that happened. But then I did lose consciousness and when I woke up I was like in an ER and I was flopping like a fish, having like seizure, like symptoms. They, those symptoms, subsided and then they gave me a bunch of tests and they doctors couldn't figure out what had caused what had just happened. And then they were like I don't know. This sometimes happens because of stress. They like sent me home. They're like take it easy. College can be stressful and I was like that doesn't seem normal. But then unfortunately, the symptoms happened again, like the next day, a couple more episodes that over the next week and eventually I think it was only a few weeks later I couldn't make it to my classes anymore and I tried to finish the semester out online, but eventually I couldn't even do work. I was so symptomatic. I was having these episodes up to nine times a day. I was wearing a helmet for my safety to protect from head injuries. I was using a wheelchair because if I took a few steps backwards or if I was in a car when it reversed, or if my wheelchair moved backwards, I could have grand mall seizure-like symptoms. But if they tested me for epilepsy, I didn't test as having epilepsy. So I became a patient of a research hospital called the Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville, florida.

Kristin: 4:56

Almost two years later of this awfulness, the Mayo Clinic officially diagnosed me with what is today referred to as functional neurological disorder. Back then it was known as conversion disorder, so they believe that it's a combination of PTSD and gut and brain inflammation. 90% of people that get it are young women hit into puberty like late teens, early 20s, and they usually have had a lot of stress in their life. So for me, my sister had died a few years earlier from a drunk driver and basically the Mayo Clinic was like we think you've been kind of not dealing with that and that you've just been being very, very busy. And they were spot on.

Kristin: 5:53

So I tried six different kinds of therapy and I tried all different kinds of medication. I would usually get more symptomatic after trying something new and I even drank Chinese herbal tonics that tasted like dirt. It was in a desperate, desperate place. But finally the Mayo Clinic after giving me a prognosis saying that we think you have a 20% chance of being able to have normal functioning and recover your sanity and your health again because of how long you've been having these symptoms how many symptoms, how you've been unresponsive to treatment so far. And I was like, no, that will not be my life. And I was like, is there anything else you guys can recommend? And I mean at that point even clinics across the country that are meant to help heal people from conversion disorder or functional neurological disorder wouldn't accept me. They said I was too symptomatic and they were afraid of liability, like me dying on the premises from a head injury. So that sucked.

Kristin: 6:59

But the Mayo Clinic said, well, hypnotherapy is one thing that might do well with this. And a family friend had stopped smoking. I mean, the guy really loved smoking scars and stuff, but he had seen Dr John Connolly for smoking cessation One session took care of it. And so he was like, guys, I think that you should take Kristen to the sky. And so I took a train ride, I drove for hours in a car, my dad took me, I left, I was self-conscious and I didn't wear my helmet or use a wheelchair or anything to get into the appointment.

Kristin: 7:41

But what was so cool is that, even though I had grown up really conservative like Pastor's daughter and was kind of skeptical about anything that might be in the realm of hypnotherapy, hypnosis-y stuff, which I think back then it was called rapid trauma resolution therapy with dynamic clinical hypnosis. It was a mouthful, something like that. But I had seen so many testimonials online of people saying I was getting raped when I was 14, and this and that. And then the other thing I was an addict for years and I had one up to four sessions with Dr Connolly. My life has changed and I was like, well, it can't be that bad, right, I'm willing to risk being terrorized by demons, I guess, just to see if this works.

Kristin: 8:32

And what ended up happening was what I would say what I call basically the most fascinating conversation of my life. It was a two hours and 20 minute long session. The first two hours were pretty conversational, of Dr Connolly explaining like, hey, this is how our mind works, different than animals, and this is why we should think more like animals. And he led me through some conversational exercises and stuff In the last 20 minutes, or what I tell people was kind of like the happy, sleepy, fun time, eyes closed, where he encouraged me to just rest in my mind, to organize and shift things, even at an unconscious level, and I felt so much peace during that time it even felt like a computer processing something, like I could tell that something was happening in the back of my skull, like it felt warm, my eyelids were fluttering rapidly a little bit, but I didn't feel afraid or anything.

Kristin: 9:34

And he had said like, hey, when you're done, basically to my subconscious mind, just allow her eyes to open when you have made the changes. And it was like bing, like a microwave getting done, and then immediately I could see clearer, I could smell better, I could feel like more grounded, solid, sturdy, like before it was easy for me to feel vertigo and then have a seizure. So immediately I just felt that I was better and I ran around the office backwards, didn't have a seizure, me and my dad cried. I think Dr Connolly cried, if we're going to be honest. I think he had some tears and it happened to be Father's Day and my dad's birthday and it was a wonderful gift to all of us.

Angela: 10:22

Wow, that's so amazing. And then did you continue treatments with him regularly after that.

Kristin: 10:30

Actually no. Well, what ended up happening is that I experienced four months of being completely symptom-free and then I realized that at the time, the original marriage I was in wasn't really healthy for me, that I was probably going to get symptomatic again if I stayed. So I ended up getting separated, eventually divorced. But when that happened, I started training with Dr Connolly. When you're training in a healing modality, a lot of times you get free therapy, so it's not like I became the enlightened Buddha after that one session. The things that we covered in that original session on June 20 of 2009,. I never had to rehash anger towards God, my parents, the drunk driver, things of why did my sister have to die, kind of stuff a lot of that grief.

Kristin: 11:26

Other sessions that I've had since then I might have healed other childhood wounds or taken care of stress from car accidents. I'm a survivor of sexual violence and I've used RRT again every time to support me. So over the years I kind of lost count. I may have had a dozen to 20 more sessions for different, various things to support my continued well-being, but thank God I've never had a seizure since that session with Dr Connolly and I've never even really had to have a session of even having like. I've never gotten close to where I was before. I've just been able to focus on other things and continue making progress in my well-being.

Angela: 12:10

Wow, that's amazing. Yeah, when I entered the story I was like, wow, I was so glad I was in this community and learning from him and you and everybody. I've had sessions with Dr Wayne Brown, oh yeah he's awesome.

Kristin: 12:28

We trained together. Oh, did you One of my first guests here? That's funny. Yeah, he might be able to tell you about how, when we were first training, how Dr Connolly used me as a demonstration and cleared up a severe phobia that I had of squirrels in four minutes in front of the room.

Angela: 12:50

Yeah, funny, oh my gosh. Yeah, I still have. I've taken about 100 hours of training, a little more, but I feel like I just have so much more to learn.

Kristin: 13:02

It's just an amazing that's awesome yeah, mastery in such a really cool field. It can last a lifetime, but the thing is that it can still be fun and exciting yeah exactly, and then so you went on to learn.

Angela: 13:19

I think he encouraged you to go learn different hypnotherapy, or what did that look like?

Kristin: 13:24

So one Dr Connolly knew that throughout my school years I had gotten awards for speech, writing and performing public speaking and I was an improv and drama and theater. And so one of the first things that he encouraged me to do was for fun and showmanship, because in rapid resolution therapy it's really useful to be able to use humor to keep things light. I mean it's one of the best things of my job that I could assist somebody that has gone through some of the darkest things anyone could ever hear of, but we can be laughing while we're clearing it up. And so one of the first trainings that he encouraged me to go do was stage hypnosis, to get really confident with being able to combine stage presence and acting and sharpen hypnotic skills and influence. And so that was really fun. And then even just learning a little bit of the mechanisms, like if you've heard of neurolinguistic programming, nlp, yeah, so basically kind of learning some different styles. Because one of the cool things was that Dr Connolly was mentoring me, shepherding me, right when I got separated he was like come work for me and I'll train you.

Kristin: 14:54

Because I didn't have a driver's license, I had less than $100 in my bank account, I was starting from scratch. I couldn't go back to school, I had college loans, I had lost a bunch of credits and Dr Connolly would basically let me organize his client files. When people have sessions with him, they agree to be able to use the sessions for training People that don't agree, but I had access to basically people whose audio and visual records of their sessions could be used for training mental health therapists, and so he would go think about what you would say to this person after they've just said this and pause it. Say what you would say to them, then unpause it and see what I said to them and notice what's different or similar and then notice what happens. So I was getting tons of hours of that a day as I was organizing his files and stuff like that and preparing for trainings and things.

Kristin: 16:04

And at the time he started he was like, hey, with people that can't afford my rate or I'm booked too far out, you can take these people, work with friends and family of mine. And I was like, I don't know, then I'm ready. And he was like, trust me, you actually have more skills and effectiveness than a bunch of other people, but so maybe whenever you're learning something you knew, you're not totally sure where you're at with competency and competency Confidence. Where does that overlap? So he was fine with me going to other trainings, even though he doesn't normally encourage, because he wanted me to see the difference of. What is it that he's doing differently than other hypnotists and why should I stick to yeah and be able to talk the language?

Kristin: 16:58

If you're advertising yourself and you say that you do hypnosis, it comes along with a lot of expectations. At the time, since I dropped out of college, I hadn't completed my bachelor's degree in psychology and I didn't plan on trying to go that route and I was just going to go ahead and go with the title of certified hypnotist, certified hypnotherapist. And then eventually, when they opened it up to lay people and not just mental health professionals, rrt specialists like I, got a chance to kind of see, like how vastly more effective the specific nuances of what Dr Connolly is doing, like his techniques and his viewpoints, rather than what other people are doing, which is a lot of times like a shot in the dark guesswork which you've been through the training so you know, but like yeah, I mean, it's just like it was a whole, like I had written a book.

Angela: 18:02

Before I even learned about RRT, I had written a book on all these like modalities. I had tried over the years to like heal. That just took so long. And then I came into his world and I was like you don't have to feel it to heal it, like that was just one of the biggest things. Like so many people and I did too I used to think, yeah, you have to like fully feel it before you can heal it, and just like knowing that was just like wow, people Don't really have to suffer, you know.

Kristin: 18:29

Yeah, it's very exciting one of when I was majoring in psychology in college, I had the fear of like, even though I wanted to help people, like I wanted to be able to do therapy cross-culturally like in missions work, help like natural disaster victims, war refugees, and use like drama therapy and stuff like that, but a big fear of mine had always been like burnout, like because I know I felt I cared so much about people.

Kristin: 19:01

Yeah, I was kind of worried about secondhand drama and stuff right, and that's why I could tell in the experience with dr Connolly there is like it's on record there's a point where I said, wow, this is great, I don't have to do so much talking, like other people maybe talk about things that are super painful, that I'm scared to talk about, don't want to talk about they think encouraged me to spend time feeling the feelings I don't want to feel more like hit pillows with bats for 10 minutes a day, stuff like that.

Kristin: 19:37

And I was like I'm so grateful though I can just like kind of sit back and relax and you can entertain me with all this stuff. And and he was like well, why would you think you'd be doing the one talking, you're the one who's messed up. I Just think, luckily we were in good connection and rapport, and I just you know, you're right, you've got a point. Why would somebody who's not thinking clearly, yeah, majority of a time of a session talking, yeah, no, I actually hadn't heard him put it that way and that that's makes so much sense, yeah.

Kristin: 20:15

Yeah, anyways. But I also told him I was like man, I can tell that this is really Useful, like I can tell it's already making a difference. I was like I'd love to be able to do what you do and he was like I Can tell you'll be good at it. I can tell you got your catching on really quickly and I'm happy to train you. But let's just get you all the way there first.

Kristin: 20:38

I was like halfway in the session, so it's even though I would never choose to have gone through all the pain and the struggle and the stress that I went through or, of course, it's always made me feel uncomfortable if people are like oh my god, like Um, you found your calling. You know that bad stuff happened so that you could be here now. And I was like I don't like to put words in the mouth of God and say my sister had to die so I could find my calling. But I will tell you I'm just really grateful, yeah, how it worked out. Like I will absolutely, you know, like, honor her and be like I'm so thankful that, for anybody that's ever experienced grief and trauma that I've Encountered, someone could, who could help me, turn it around and teach me how to assist up doing that for other people Right. Wonderful when life works out that way.

Angela: 21:31

Yeah, yeah, definitely. Um, no, I mean, and that's uh, that's a whole. Another thing I haven't um learned a lot about yet is the grief part of it, but I know that he has. I haven't read that book yet. Grief isn't sacred.

Kristin: 21:48

Yeah, grief. Grief is not sacred, it's so different. It's just it's kind of it ends up almost becoming a little bit harder to relate to people, like if there is, let's just say, in a church community, at a workplace or something like in a neighborhood, a death occurs and other people are really having a tough time with it. But if you've had an RRT session for healing frozen grief, like grief trauma, then you have such a different way of thinking about things that you almost have to kind of like pretend that you're upset like other people, yeah, or you have to just really be empathetic, but it's hard because you don't want to offend people right like.

Kristin: 22:37

I'm going hey, you don't have to be suffering, you should get that taken care of. Yeah, that's why I was people. People are like, wow, how you got so personal on and you Sharing what you did with your TEDx talk and it was like, well, I didn't know when I got sick, like when all this stuff started happening, I didn't know that that could happen from grief, trauma. Yeah, I, before I started having my seizure symptoms, my thought process when I was having nightmares and waking up with, like early awakening and Morning nausea which can happen from a bunch of cortisol, from nightmares and stuff from being in hypervigilance Fight, flight, freeze too much.

Angela: 23:23

Mm-hmm.

Kristin: 23:24

I would just wake up not with no appetite, too sick to eat, when it's like, well, I'm not pregnant, I don't know Sleeping difficulties, and I kind of just thought it's like, well, something bad happened, it makes sense that there would be Effects from it. Like, I guess you just kind of have to. It's one of those things with life that you're just gonna have to adjust who and deal with. I didn't know that there was that. It's literally like a medical condition PTSD of like you know that that saying time heals all wounds, but you and I know that's bullshit. Like, yeah, that's awesome. For some people after a troubling event has happened, it works itself out on its own. They have a different way of thinking. That heals, you know, stops creating repetitive negative thought patterns or flashbacks and dysfunction and they find peace on their own. But sometimes, just like a scratch, blood will congeal and skin will come together and tighten and form new skin and you can forget that you got a scratch a couple weeks ago.

Kristin: 24:32

But, there are sometimes where you get a wound and if it doesn't get properly treated with antibiotic ointment or stitches, it can cause you problems and keep reopening and stuff. Yeah, for me my the turn driver responsible for my sister's death there was a trial two years later and there was a lot of information that came out during that trial that nobody prepared my family for. They weren't like, hey, guess what? This is gonna happen in court today. You're gonna be shown pictures. You're gonna be shown that.

Kristin: 25:09

So like when the acts well, I hate to even call it an accident when somebody's driving recklessly, but like when the crash happened, like this, the person that was responsible made 14 or 11 calls To friends and family to try to flee the scene, did not stop and call 9-1-1 for emergency medical assistance.

Kristin: 25:35

We didn't know that. My family, we thought my sister had died on impact instantly, but then we found out later that she was alive and if the guy had made a call might have been able to Rescue her. Right, and so that was one of those things that's like, well, let's say, you've been trying to heal and then new information like that comes up and just starts your thoughts. So I guess it was probably like another year's worth of difficulty processing before I started having the physical breakdown. But you know, in our RT and Maybe dr Connolly talked about this on a previous episode or something, but we use this term in our RT world called, like freeing people of preoccupations, preoccupations and so the first thing that I did was I was like and so this is also something that I had never caught before.

Kristin: 26:32

My experience with dr Connolly and all the training was just that, like Something doesn't have to be at the forefront of your awareness, like I'm actively thinking about oh, I'm pissed at this guy For this thing having happened. I'm actively remembering, feeling an experience of replaying things, yeah, which that sometimes happened when I was like, oh, it's time to go to bed, lights out. I have, if I've not thinking about homework or school or something In the moment of stillness, oh, my thoughts have gone here and I'm like actually consciously aware of it. Right, but knowing that if something hasn't gotten resolved, like if your brain has been asking a question like, why did that have to happen? Could I have done something differently? Like if I had Hung out with my sister that weekend and forced her not to go to her friend's birthday party when I offered her to hang out with me. But if I had been selfish and made her hang out with me, maybe she could have lived.

Kristin: 27:33

Like, if it hasn't found an actual Resolution to certain questions that are kind of triggering, fight-flight-free stuff, then what I found out was just like that stuff, it's kind of like an open window, like in an app on your phone or an open window on your computer or something, and it's like that stuff can be happening without you consciously actually being aware that your mind is continually having that thought pattern out of conscious awareness and replaying stuff.

Kristin: 28:09

Like you may or may not remember the dreams that you had and stuff like that, but it's like man, I think people can be unaware of how much space stressors are taking up in their mental energy capacity, their body and stuff like that, and it's unfortunately we're just not as proactive with taking care of things.

Kristin: 28:36

But if people listening to this I know that we sound like maybe evangelists, fanatics about RRT and stuff. I know that there are other methods of things that have worked with people, that some people have experienced great relief from things like EMDR or ketamine or psychedelics or some other kinds of therapy or something like that, and I think it's great that we're finding more effective solutions today than like doing barbaric things that were done 100 years ago. All right, I think it's awesome, but it's just like I encourage people to like, increase their like, lower their tolerance for things that are bothering them and increase their standard of like what it means to be well Like if people will go to the dentist every six months to get their teeth cleaned which I'm not knocking at or all.

Kristin: 29:33

I'm just great. It prevents dementia and all kinds of things. It's awesome. But I mean, I would consider our brains to be one of the most complicated pieces of equipment that exists, not on the planet, but maybe the universe. It's like a very fascinating thing, and Dr Connolly will say this the more complex something is, the more prone it can be to errors and the more it could require proper fuel, updating, maintenance, protection, and we should not underestimate the power of the mind. I'm living proof. Everybody my sorry.

Angela: 30:16

No, I mean, it's true. And what I also liked is that he pointed out how talk therapy can really delay healing, which, for me, I tried for years going to talk therapy to heal some domestic violence things from my past, and only once I was in RRT was I able to like clear those, because in talk therapy you just open up your wounds and then it's time to go, and then you don't have time to do it.

Kristin: 30:45

Well, good, for you for being able to talk about that. Awesome, I'd rather not be feeling angry every day or sad every day in the first place. Could you help with that, right? Well, you gotta take responsibility for it, you gotta be patient, you gotta be mindful of it. Yeah, yeah, I've been there. It kind of I try not to just get upset about it and still just like focus on the solution of like bringing awareness, because if people don't know that something different, something better, something more effective, more quick or something is exists Right, then we just can't, I guess, fault people for it, just continuing to go with the status quo, right.

Angela: 31:37

No, definitely. I mean, yeah, I had no idea, just the things he says. I'm like whoa, but I'm also open-minded enough to consider a different perspective, where I know some people are just like very stuck in how they think and they're not willing to consider that there's alternatives.

Kristin: 31:54

So yeah, I think open-mindedness, especially when it comes to solutions, especially when there's so much evidence that people are getting good results, yeah, you're willing to, even though something is innovative and it's not traditional, it's something you haven't heard of before, but if it's like, if you could at least be willing to check it out and at least be willing like there is. I think if people Google the science of RRT or they type in the science of rapid resolution therapy, there's like a case study I forget the lady's name, mary something but she basically goes into the science of memory reconciliation which has been getting studied. Rrt is having some studies coming out. Maybe you're aware there's like one, I think, in Colorado or so, for sexual violence recovery, clearing PTSD for sexual violence. I think that we have some coming out about RRT's effectiveness for addiction recovery, preventing relapse.

Kristin: 33:02

But these things take a while. We have like things in the works and underway, but some of the a basis of an approach of like oh, we can make sure that somebody's feeling fully present in the moments that they're emotionally connected to the tone that the RRT specialist or guide is kind of setting with. Like if we remember something that used to be very disturbing but we could play a game like talking about it in a foreign accent while like patting our head and rubbing our tummy and something like that, and you can update how the brain is processing it to getting it like it's not experiencing the disturbing memory, as if it was an event that's actually happening, that the body has to do something to prepare for a threat, for but it can have the experience of like oh, this is just memory and what's happening right now is fun, right, like that the process of healing doesn't have to be scary or painful and that it can be something quite fascinating.

Kristin: 34:14

I think if, when something is totally mysterious, it can come across as like scary, sometimes for people, there's a lot of uncertainty.

Kristin: 34:22

But, if you like, really check it out like if you talk to people who have had sessions and they describe how it went, if you look that up like the science of rapid resolution therapy. I think her name is Mary Bowles or something and she talks about how she had like a lifelong phobia of public speaking and how she had a fun RRT session that cleared it up. And she goes into the science of why it's effective, like what the brain is doing. Oh, okay.

Angela: 34:50

Yeah, which helps people Exactly. That's not like woo, woo witchcraft. No, I think yeah. Once the mystery is not there, it's easier to understand, and so a lot of my listeners are entrepreneurs and I'd love to just discuss maybe some of the common emotions that really keep people in general like stuck. For example, maybe you could give an example or two of how anger or fear or guilt or shame can really stand in the way of people being successful in their business.

Kristin: 35:32

Yeah, I would say when I am assisting entrepreneurs that a lot of times when I'm just a common thing, I guess I would put it more in the category that it's usually stuff that's affecting their ability to run their business successfully. Fear, like the fear of failure or the fear of success, we could get into that. But then the fear of embarrassment, shame like failure, like the fear of even disappointing other people Right, like having an upset, disappointed customer or client or something like that. But then, of course, if somebody else is like, if they are having a really stressful relationship, if they don't respond well to employees disappointment or frustration or they have a hard time with handling, let's say, when they get upset about something like a challenging conversation and talking to somebody, with having self-regulated and being able to talk not too harshly nor too softly, but assertively, clearly, effectively.

Kristin: 36:49

So I think with entrepreneurs, we're usually assisting them in being able to manage the things that they are thinking of as threats, whether it's like a disproportionate reaction to feeling irritated by something that a coworker or employee is doing Right, or they're afraid of somebody else getting upset with them. And basically, most of the time we're just really clearing up for the subconscious mind for people that like meaning that the parts of your brain that we refer to, the subconscious mind, that are in control over protection and defense and bodily process issues, right, like those parts can be so super prone to interpreting things that to us logically, critically thinking, we can think oh yeah, man, that's unexpected, that's a surprise, that's an ideal, that's challenging, that's a problem that sucks, and that's like prefrontal cortex, like higher thinking, logical mind that can see it as that. But subconscious mind is like a little toddler that can turn into a Hulk.

Kristin: 38:10

You're, like it's like super, super obsessed with wondering whether we're gonna die or someone else is gonna die, and it can interpret anything that we're just slightly worried about, Right, it's not in an RRT session, it's like making sure that the whole facet of somebody's mind, body, spirit, psyche, personality is like clearly seeing things in the present for what they are, that it's not being turbocharged by past experiences, that it's not getting amplified based on worst case scenarios made up stuff that we're imagining, and that we are actually responding to things or taking care of business from our most resourceful, wise, clear, discerning way of navigating life. And I think that there is, of course, things like lifestyle, like you have a good, consistent, adequate amount of sleeping well and you've got great, healthy, nourishing diet and you've got a great active lifestyle and maybe you do things to just be okay with stillness and rest, like meditation. All of that will make somebody's brain more capable of handling life well. And yet I just believe, kind of like, if our bodies are like a car and the car is in use over a period of time, like, Of course the car needs great fuel In the more rocky terrain and challenging weather conditions, it could need some extra support, it might need some maintenance, update, upkeep, repairs and stuff like that.

Kristin: 39:53

And that's how could we not think that, especially as business owners, like operators, especially leaders. We're serving other people. We're not only in the position of taking care of our own basic needs every day, but we have to be operating at such a level that we're being able to resolve other people's problems or something like that. Like resolve problems in our business and so getting some assistance with like RRT sessions, coaching stuff, like that is just like. I would hope that nobody would feel like, oh, that means something bad about me, that I have to have that assistance that I like, why can't I do it on my own? And it's like welcome to life, welcome to being a human, welcome to running around like a car like we're in use every day we got. It only makes sense that we do things to support ourselves to be functioning at our most optimal level.

Angela: 40:51

Yeah, absolutely. Now, that's true. Go ahead. No, it's okay. No, it's just, it's very true. And saying something that made me want to ask you something about entrepreneurs. What was it? Oh gosh. Well, what conditions do you see, or what conditions do you usually treat? Do you help a lot of entrepreneurs, or is it just like all over?

Kristin: 41:22

Yeah, I haven't been like that would be interesting if I was actually keeping note of that, like in some systematic way, of what percentage of people I'm assisting are indeed entrepreneurs. That would be nice to have that data Right. Thanks for that.

Kristin: 41:40

But I would say that it's probably my instinct like going with my gut, is probably it might be a third of my clients that are entrepreneurs Just because, like I said, a lot of people to be running a business successfully, you really firing on all cylinders is kind of necessary. So if you're feeling like a ball's getting dropped as a mom or as a spouse, as a friend or even just like I'm, I feel like I'm doing well in this particular area, like I'm really great at assisting the clients, but I'm having stuckness, like procrastination and fears in marketing, like there's so many different aspects to running a thriving business.

Kristin: 42:30

Well, or running your own life well. So it makes sense that a lot of entrepreneurs are asked, are needing support, you know, like asking for assistance from people, RRT practitioners or coaches and stuff. But I would just say that sometimes there are people that are coming to me that they can tell they already have a conscious clarity. Like I can tell that because I had this experience and speech class in college where everybody laughed at me in the movie Carrie, they're all going to laugh at you or something like that.

Kristin: 43:14

Like it was a horribly embarrassing experience and I know that it would take my business to the next level to do a podcast or do public speaking or something like that. But I just the trauma, the PTSD, is coming up and I need assistance clearing that up, right, yeah. But then there's other people that are like I have no idea why I'm not doing what I need to be doing, like I don't think, I'm afraid of it, but I will put it on the schedule, it's time to do this. And then, lo and behold, I never do it. And when something is like that, I'm a morpheus and vague and I have no idea what the heck's going on.

Kristin: 43:53

And I've really tried. You know, I've said in New Year's promise, I've hired an accountability coach and something is still not actually flowing and working out. Definitely could use some assistance to get that resolved. I think sometimes, oh, another thing that I see a lot with entrepreneurs asking for assistance is that they haven't been able to get really clear on a certain vision, like they might want to pick a niche, yeah, but they really haven't been able. For some reason. They've got like oh, but I feel like I'm neglecting other people or I'm not sure that I'm competent enough to deliver like a 100% money back guarantee. You know, product or service or something, an offering.

Kristin: 44:35

And so sometimes we are assisting people in such a way to free up the mind, to not be letting again the influences of past feelings, that somebody feels like, oh, that's a category of failure, that like I don't want to put a lot of effort and work into something that doesn't work out, I'm too impatient or something to see this thing through, like I don't have enough motivation for this. But I know that the payoff a part of me knows that if I were to do this with my business and I actually were to do it effectively and I were to stick with it and be patient enough, I know that it would be worthwhile. But for the life of me I haven't been able to get myself to just committing to it and doing it and getting it done.

Angela: 45:29

Yeah.

Kristin: 45:31

Right and it's. Those are a lot of things that we're assisting people with resolving.

Angela: 45:36

Wow, I mean I feel like a lot of entrepreneurs deal with. With that, I mean just in you know, my communities and groups and fellow, you know friends in the space. It's like there's a lot of procrastination or fear of being seen, like you said, or fear of public speaking. And yeah, I just think that would be so helpful for people. And what I love about our tea also is it we don't put the responsibility on them, and it's like I felt like that's a relief when I heard the most part.

Kristin: 46:08

It's really nice to see to go to someone, because, I mean, there's been times I've invested in thousands of dollars for like a coach or something and I let's say they gave me a lot of good practical knowledge Like this is how you build out a sales funnel, right. But because things were getting activated of like, oh okay, I don't have clarity yet on exactly what I want to offer. Who's my target audience? Or I feel uncomfortable at the thought of me putting myself out there having created this kind of content. Who's going to see it? What will my family think? Something Right Like um, and if a coach doesn't know how to resolve that for you, yeah, they don't even see it as their responsibility. They're just like yeah, you should take care of that. You could keep on as much education and knowledge, you could keep on as much software as you want. It's not going to take care of that glitch.

Angela: 47:06

Yeah, so true, and that's such an important point that I don't think I had heard so clearly said until you just said that. But yeah, that's, it's very true and it's happening a lot. And I think the entrepreneur feels like gosh, what's wrong with me, like why can't I do this? I have all the knowledge. And like why can't I just do it? And like they don't understand.

Kristin: 47:24

there's something you know there, yeah, that different worldview of that. Sometimes people think that because they logically can know a effective way of doing something, that that knowledge alone that they should be responsible for. If they have fear, apprehension, avoidance, some kind of fight flight freeze thing popping up, yeah that they should. Everybody, all the time, for any reason, for anything, should be able to grit their teeth and push like lean in to just what do it. Yeah, guess what. We wouldn't have a multi billion dollar coaching industry if everybody and but everybody could just like grin and bear it, grit their teeth and do it. And yet isn't that weird that that's how many. That's how coaches are setting their programs up, or advertising is just like just do it, and so you've got some really effective stuff like tools in your toolbox to clients and stuff like our RT or NLP and stuff like that. It's just like, if people self management, it can be awesome.

Kristin: 48:49

I think it's great to know skills for changing your physical and emotional state and questioning your thought patterns, challenging them, and I think every single person who has ever done like self development, self growth stuff has gone exposed to that things, and I would beg to say that even people like Tony Robbins himself, like the original life coach and other people, has had other people support them Right. Like there are times where they've asked for a session because they couldn't get themselves to do something Right. And like not every surgeon should operate on themselves. Yeah For everything. Right, I mean probably for most things, no.

Kristin: 49:38

So there are some times where the Tangle Little Web that we have a fear and avoidance for something is going on and it would be quite a pickle. It would be quite challenging to ask the brain to guide itself to unravel that Right. It would be so much easier and quicker to get somebody else to go. Oh, I see what's going. Now, let me. Let me help you change your way of thinking and your state. Let me help rewire your neural pathways and retrain your nervous system so that now, when we think of this, you get this feeling yeah, instead of this other one Right, yeah, no, it's.

Angela: 50:17

We want to take advantage of that. Yeah, and I think Dr Connolly also has the example of, like you know, going to a hairdresser. We wouldn't pay them to then have them hand us the scissors and cut our own hair, yeah.

Kristin: 50:32

Yeah. So I mean, even in there are probably some hairdressers and stuff. Like, if we're talking about people in the transformation business, like coaches that are coaching people, I think they themselves should know like, hey, if you have a business assisting other people that are experiencing stuckness, then of course it makes sense that you could sometimes use a spot. You know a spot, you know some teamwork, you know that you an assist. Yeah, if you already believe in it, because, like every hairstylist and stuff, there might be some things like, oh, I can cut my bangs, but I'm not going to do like a crop bob, right, you know like that's too hard, difficult. If it's too tricky on my own, then let's give it to someone else to do yeah, exactly, and that's a good example.

Angela: 51:26

No, this has been so helpful and where, if someone's listening and they want to work with you, like what's the process and where can they find you, and then I'll link it all on the show notes to You're so kind, thank you.

Kristin: 51:40

My website where people can find, you know, book a console to session, they can read blogs and there's a shop that where I have guided meditations and stuff, if somebody wants to see what's available there. That's all at Kristen Rivascom. So K R I S T I N R I V is in Victor, because sometimes people think I'm saying be but R I V a Scom, kristen Rivas.

Angela: 52:10

Great yeah, and so they can book a console with you and then that's just like a free call If it's a good fit, and then they can book a session from there.

Kristin: 52:19

Totally.

Angela: 52:19

Yeah, okay, and any, any final things you want to share?

Kristin: 52:25

I will just acknowledge that, like in my training and career, that I was wondering sometimes why is it sometimes that some people are getting results quicker, easier, and because a lot of times are RT, the track record is what is usually one to four sessions and resolving something that might change depending on the person's age and what I later found out, I got a brain health coaching certification from Dr Daniel Aiman of the Aiman clinics so that I could get more knowledge about hormone health and brain health and understand.

Kristin: 52:59

So when I have a consult with somebody I'm can check and go okay. Well, if they're have they have an untreated, unhealed traumatic brain injury or they're dealing with toxic mold, top toxic mold syndrome or Lyme's disease, they've got a severe hormonal imbalance, food allergies unaddressed, unhealed and stuff that might mean that, let's say, somebody wants to use our RT to stop having generalized anxiety every day If the body is dealing with some other big current stressor or some other big current tax or like an unhealed brain wound and stuff like that. Like I also want to make sure that I'm taking good care of people and not just doing a bunch of guesswork, so I have some hormone and brain health assessments for people if they're wanting to see results in certain areas and I can usually figure it out and give them a more realistic expectation Of what kinds of results they can get from how many sessions Okay, or what additional adjunct therapies and treatments and things like that might be useful for them to see their full desired results based on what might be going on with their health.

Angela: 54:09

Yeah, that makes so much sense because I actually went through mold toxicity and my brain was very foggy and just horrible anxiety, and then my oldest daughter has Lyme disease or had it. So that makes sense because if someone comes in there and they're dealing with this toxicity and that might be contributing to the anxiety, then they would have expectations that might not.

Kristin: 54:30

Yeah, that makes totally so I think it's useful for us to be aware of that. But our RT shows very dramatic, quick, effective results, especially when, if it's somebody wants to change a habit, somebody wants to change their mood, somebody wants to change their thought patterns, and it's really originating from the impact of prior experiences. If there is something unaddressed, untreated, that is also fueling anxiety for them, like a horrible leaky gut saying or something like that food allergies and things then it's. Our RT is still going to be useful to help clear trauma. But we might want know, hey, we also need to be assisting the mind in the body and healing and that other way. Yeah, right to really see huge progress, quickly maintained and stuff over time. Our RT hypnotherapy stuff can absolutely improve like gut health, like you were talking about, anger and guilt, and then we can also do things like high grinding, highly related stuff, like so we can do things to use our techniques to also improve health. But it's just a good thing to be kind of aware of the whole picture about it all.

Angela: 55:56

Yeah, that's so true. Thank you for sharing. Yeah, well, I appreciate your time. I'm so excited to share this with everyone, so thank you for coming on today and we'll talk again soon hopefully. Thank you so much for listening to the 5D CFO podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please share it and tag me on social media. You can find me at Angela Marie Christian on Instagram, facebook and Tiktok. If you haven't purchased my best selling book, manifestation Mastery, yet, it's priced at 99 cents on Amazon for the Kindle version.