THE UN/CONVENTIONAL CEO

From Teen Mom to 7 Figure CEO: Andrea Crowder's Inspiring Journey to Business Success

July 07, 2023 Angela Marie Christian Season 1 Episode 69
THE UN/CONVENTIONAL CEO
From Teen Mom to 7 Figure CEO: Andrea Crowder's Inspiring Journey to Business Success
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I absolutely loved this conversation with one of my mentors / teachers: Andrea Crowder.

Join me as I sit down with Andrea, who is a seven-figure CEO, as she generously shares her inspiring journey. This episode is not just about business strategies, but it also offers a personal touch as Andrea opens up about journey, which I can certainly relate to as a young, single mother myself.

We delve into how Andrea came across Rapid Resolution Therapy (RRT) through Dr. Wayne Brown and its profound impact on her life and business. She shares how RRT has helped her regulate her emotions and nervous system, and how it's influenced her thinking about both life & business. She reveals how her energy frequency has changed since engaging with RRT, and how it has positively impacted her business.

If you're someone who's juggling multiple responsibilities and struggling with burnout, then this conversation is for you. Andrea shares her unique decision-making process and her methods to overcome burnout.

We delve into her various programs, including the ones below that I've personally taken (and revisit as needed, especially Regulate and WAP):

Regulate
WAP (Wealth Alignment Patterns)
Mantras Masterclass
The Underdog
Future Self Activations

So, plug in your earphones and get ready for a journey of resilience, determination, and success.

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Angela:

Hello and welcome to the 5D CFO podcast. My name is Angela Marie Christian and my mission is to help entrepreneurs and thought leaders rise to the 5D, where we can find wealth in all dimensions, in all areas of life. Enjoy. I am really excited to share with you my interview with Andrea Crowder. She has had such a huge influence on my life over the last six months as I navigated divorce, career change, pivoting in my business, etc. She has helped me and so many others release what's been holding us back.

Angela:

I will link all of the programs that I mentioned during our conversation in the show notes and I highly recommend that you take them as well. Andrea is a seven figure CEO who provides coaching and has extremely popular digital courses. She started seeing Dr Wayne Brown, who I also see and have mentioned on the show multiple times, and that was her introduction to RRT, rapid Resolution Therapy. She infuses her programs with RRT and that is why they're so incredibly powerful. That and her just being her. So Andrea teaches people to master their own mind, body and emotions So they create a life that feels good on purpose. This woman is absolute magic. Enjoy. Welcome to the show, andrea. I'm so excited to have you here.

Andrea:

I'm so excited too. Thank you for having me.

Angela:

Yes, it's funny because I feel like I've already talked to you before because I've taken several of your programs, so it's just funny. But I'd love for you to introduce yourself to the listeners and just kind of walk us through where you started and where you're at, because it is such an inspirational story.

Andrea:

I mean, how far do you want me to go back?

Angela:

Well, i loved your story about how you started when you were 19, a single mother. I was a single mother to like where you're at now. A lot of moms listen to the show, so I think they would just like find that really inspirational.

Andrea:

Yeah, sure. So I got pregnant at 19. The father of my child also got another woman pregnant within a month, And so he had just found out that she was pregnant. And then he said, man, if I found out you were pregnant too, I would literally drive myself off a cliff. And I was like ha ha.

Andrea:

And then he ended up saying like you know what, i'm going to try to do the right thing. I'm going to go. I'm going to go back to her because he had completed a relationship with her, started one with me. It was a fun summer love, just like hanging up the river together and everybody's like drinking, and just like fun teen summer year. And then, all of a sudden, it got real and serious.

Andrea:

And I woke up one morning and I'm like why do my boobs hurt so bad? And so I messaged one of my friends who had a also really young teen pregnancy. She was 14 when she got pregnant And I was like, could this be a thing? And she's like Andrew, you better not be. And I'm like, i'm like broke at the time. And so I walked into a and when I say broke, i mean like my whole life was just kind of a shit show. Like I was a stripper, all my friends were drug dealers, like I wasn't. It was not a fine moment for me. It's not something, it's not a season that I'm proud of for sure. And I walked into a grocery store, i grabbed a pregnancy test that I couldn't afford to buy, and so I just walked into the bathroom with it at the grocery store And I took the pregnancy right there. So Lake essentially stole the pregnancy test, never paid for. It, found out that I was pregnant alone in this like dark gray, like concrete, cold, damp bathroom, and I'm staring at this pregnancy test, looking at the two lines, and my eyes are like falling out of my face. I'm panicking now because all I can hear are his words If I found out you're pregnant, you'll drive myself off a cliff. Luckily that did not happen, and but it was.

Andrea:

It was really challenging for both of us And I ended up moving away. He wasn't interested in being a part of both of his kids life. I think it was. There was a whole lot. I'm not going to say anything about what I think he was thinking, but, like I, i moved to Vegas to be with my mom. I ended up getting back together with somebody that I had been dating previously, which then became my husband, recently my ex, but we're together for almost two decades, had a really beautiful marriage. He raised my son as his own He's always been dad to my son And then we had a daughter together as well And had a really long, mostly happy marriage, but he was in the military, got pretty extreme PTSD And then with that came addiction. We did a pretty good job to treating the PTSD with a lot of different therapies, but the addiction really is what ended our relationship, not something that he was interested in dealing with, didn't see as problematic and was more interested in keeping that habit, and so that was the completion of our marriage, like respectively and with love, and I feel grateful that I get to say that.

Andrea:

But yeah, so kind of the in between of that was here I am, before I'm, before he and I decided to get married. I'm thinking I'm about to raise a baby by myself as a teenager and not having money, not knowing what to do, looking around, seeing like my friends are not people that I really see helping me raise this kid, and I remember just feeling like who might it be? a mom? like who might it take care of this kid? this kid is going to look up to me And I'm nobody to be looked up to. And I remember he was up at like 2am crying. He wouldn't nurse, i had mastitis, like I was. It was just full on shit show. So he's crying, i'm crying and I'm staring at this sweet little baby depending on me and I'm like I just remember staring at his face. We're both now crying Nobody knows whose tears are whose at this point, and I just said out loud to him in the middle of the night I promise you that I will become a woman that you will be proud to call mom someday. And it wasn't like a fast change, but it was a meaningful decision And I walked away from a lot of relationships that weren't going to be good for either of us, and it started with that.

Andrea:

It started with closing old doors of relationships that I didn't want to be around as I'm raising this child, and then me ended up getting married, becoming a really young military wife, moving to the UK, living in a completely different country and learning how to be a mom and learning how to be a wife.

Andrea:

And that was kind of the start of things. Was me making that promise to him of, like I'm going to give you something to look up to. I can't promise you what that's going to look like, but I can promise you that I will. And that turned into leader on becoming an entrepreneur and learning about self-growth, like I hadn't even ever heard the words personal development until I was in my mid to late 20s, the idea of a self-help book didn't even exist in my mind. Nobody had ever mentioned it to me before. So to be that old and be like, oh, it's this personal growth thing, and now I'm like a leader in the personal growth industry, which is like so ironic and hilarious. But yeah, i was a late bloomer, so if you're like, i haven't figured my shit out yet, it took me a minute too.

Angela:

Yeah, i can relate to that. And then you started with Beachbody, right, i was like the first entrepreneurial.

Andrea:

Yeah, i mean I thought that I was going to try, maybe like photography, i was so shy. I like I'm still to this day an introvert because of the internet. I have a brand, because I can sit behind my computer like this and talk to people while I'm like in my house, and I started with network marketing, which I still to this day. I say, like, if you've never run a business and you want to start with network marketing, learn how to sell and let somebody else create the product and handle all of the customer service and find a product that you really really care about, that you love, that you're proud of, that you use regularly all on your own, and then find a way to get paid to share that product. So you could do that through influencer marketing or you could do that through network marketing.

Andrea:

I like network marketing because the difference to me is that if you tell a friend like hey, you should build a successful influencer career and you're an influencer and they do it and they make a million dollars, they make a million dollars, right, but you are the one who like influence them and maybe you taught them some of the things that you knew that were working for you. And in network marketing, the company's going to pay you for being a leader. The company's going to pay you for taking skills that you have and duplicating it with another, and that doesn't happen in every industry, especially the influencer industry. I think that's. The main difference to me is that I do get paid for helping others succeed in network marketing and I still have an income from that business today because of that.

Angela:

Wow, yeah, no, i think that's great. I've been involved in different network marketing still in one And yeah, i think it's a great way to get started as an entrepreneur.

Andrea:

For sure It's a business in a box, yeah, yeah. It's like so If you can't do it in network marketing, like it's I mean, i can't say that you won't, because everybody has their own karma and what it is that they're going to do in this life. I just think, like, save yourself a little bit of the work, right, let them do the majority of the work for you and you just do the fun part, which is like connecting people to solutions.

Angela:

Yeah, definitely. And so another piece that I wanted to talk about was I recently got certified in clinical hypnosis utilizing RRT, based on you, so I have you to think for that. And then I see Dr Wayne Brown regularly, and RRT has been such a life changing experience, and I had actually Dr Connolly on my show about a month ago Oh cool Yeah. And so we talked about some topics that I thought the listeners would enjoy and just kind of shift perspectives a little bit. So I'd love for you to just share how maybe RRT has helped you, and then also in the way of business as well.

Andrea:

Well, i'll start with the business, because I got trained in RRT and because I was using it. I used it for about a year, i want to say before I started using it in business, and people just noticed a change in me. So you know how, like you're building a business and it's like like see me, you see my products, and there's this like hunger and you want to like. You want to like be known for this and you want it to work. Like RRT made it to where, like I just didn't care, i didn't feel that hunger. There was like the desperate energy of like trying to get there wherever there may be, just didn't exist for anymore. I just felt so neutral around all of it, which meant all of the energy that was getting spent on feeling like I wasn't there was now getting used towards just creating excellent, excellent transformations for people.

Andrea:

And because that was where my main focus went to word of mouth marketing, just like blew up for my business And when people would see me in my marketing, they're like there's just something different about her. She feels so good to be around. Now I'm like walking. I've walked out of a marriage and so like starting dating again, especially after I mean like ops didn't exist When my spouse and I got together. So it's a whole new world, but I can't tell you how many first dates that I've been on where guys are like there's just something about you.

Andrea:

You just feel so easy to be around. Then I'm like right, i'm not stressed out. So, from a personal perspective, rrt gave me like freedom in my body back, and I think that that's actually like a luxury that most people don't even know is available to them. And you know I used to I've said a million times like I used to wake up every single day feeling anxious, every day, no matter how good my life was, no matter how much, like I had had a half a million dollar a year Exceptional by anyone's standards And I was still waking up feeling anxious and afraid And there was so much going on in my life, and so I would spend the first two hours every day moving my pain so I could get into my purpose. And now I wake up every day and I just go straight into my purpose. What would you do if you had two hours times 365 back to just put into your business? What would happen to your business? I'll tell you what happened to mine. It tripled. So we did $1.2 million last year in total growth sales. I'd never done anything like that before, and now we're still set to more than double that this year, not because I'm working more in my business. In fact I don't work a lot Like the majority of I started dating this guy and he's like he's like we could be a total power couple, like the things guys say are just so funny.

Andrea:

To me Dating is hilarious. He's like we could be a total power couple And like this man is so charming and like adorable And yeah, it's just, it's so funny because he just kept saying, like you're so busy, like I just love like seeing you just like hustle and I'm like staring at him like he's so turned on by it. I don't want to like break it to him that I like don't hustle and I don't work that hard And I like literally not that busy. Everyone says they'll message me. I'm so sorry for bothering you. I know how busy you are because I'm sure you look at my business and one might assume that I'm just like maxed out, that like I'm working all day long and I'm just not Like I have so much capacity and like the majority of my time working on my business is just giving myself thinking time.

Andrea:

Like I'll go for a three hour walk downtown and just like be in the city in the sunshine and just like enjoy the palm trees in southern Florida And I'm like I'm just. I'm so at ease, my business is at ease, my body is at ease, my emotions are at ease, my relationships, primarily, are at ease because I'm not trying to control any relationships anymore, like ROT hands down has been. I say there's never one silver bullet to anything, but like if I could pick one and I could only have one, rrt would be the thing that I would grab. That I would say, like out of everything that I've learned in my life, if I could go back and I could only pick one and every other skill that I learned how to be different than the ones that I know, rrt would be the one hands down because it's given me the most.

Angela:

Yeah, absolutely. It's been amazing and I've only been around it for like I guess, six months or something And it's like, wow, i wish I would have found this a lot sooner. I know, i know, so did you. So that was like one of the biggest needle movers for your business then. Totally.

Andrea:

That just regulation of the nervous system and emotions and Yeah, because not only was I able to do it for myself and so I felt differently and moved differently in my business, with my business, i thought differently about my business. I thought differently about, like, how I worked with clients and in my team and the products that we built, but infusing RRT into the products that I create gave people such an unusual transformation that people don't just buy single products from me, like how many of you purchased.

Angela:

Yeah, i've had. I think I have four or five.

Andrea:

So Right, and that's the norm And you've probably gone through all of them, like at least the majority of the way right.

Angela:

Like I purchased Regulate first and that, along with Dr Brown, helped me completely clear my fear of public speaking. Like my fear of public speaking, especially the track on, i think it was other people's perspectives That like I listened to so many times and that like just helped me visualize like being on stage, like what's the worst that could happen, like being goofy, you know, like just all of these things. Yeah, that, and then WAP, i like listened to in two days, like I just I was actually going to share this with you is that I had this fear of checking my bank account which, after I listened to that clearing it never came back again And it was I tell people that all the time because it's like it's not logical And even when I had money I'd be like why do I feel so anxious about checking my bank account? you know that took it away.

Andrea:

And and I felt the same way too, that used to be my experience as well, and what you're saying is the norm of what I hear from my clients, but it's not the norm in the industry. A digital course creator, for the most part, has really low like they might have. Let's say, you have 100 people come in, but maybe like 10 people actually go through the program all the way, and it's like 10 people don't go through the program all the way. For us, it's so rare, like if someone comes to me and they're like I didn't vibe with this, i'd like a refund. I'm like you didn't even listen to it. I'll go back and check the statistics And I'll be like you never even listened to one.

Andrea:

That's how I know that this is bullshit, because, like you just feel different whether you're doing anything when you listen to myself, not just because of what I say, but because of the frequency in which I say it, and I know that you're so much about that on. That's the whole point of this podcast. But like the texture in my voice, the tonality, like the way that I say things, but also the way that I feel when I say them, feels different for people because I'm so chill, right? Not because that's who I am naturally, but because I'm so regulated. So my frequency changed wildly And so I can say all the wrong things, even in the program, but it's still like the frequency will still deliver.

Andrea:

It doesn't matter what's packaged around and called like a word, it doesn't really matter what word I choose, even though I'm a huge fan of like potency of words, but the frequency in which I deliver it has such high impact. People come back for that over and over and over. So like I'm telling you, like, go get trained in ROT, you'll watch your business just flow up. It's crazy.

Angela:

Yeah, and I mean it's helped in every area of life. It's just been incredible. So when you have any kind of like, say, doubt or any issue with motivation, if you have that, do you do ROT on yourself or do you go get a session or do you do both? I'm just curious.

Andrea:

I do both, but I don't look at motivation as something I have. I look at motivation as something that I cause And so. But when I do deal with like an emotional disturbance, a lot of times I can clear it myself. I woke up this morning and I did ROT before even open to my eyes, And sometimes I can't get it on my own, So then I'll book a session with Wayne or John, But for the most part I started working with Wayne and he was my intro into ROT, And then now I pretty much almost exclusively work with John, Although I was thinking the other day I was like I'm just going to start randomly booking sessions with facilitators that I don't know, just to kind of see, because I feel like I've blown up Wayne's business so much. One of my kids tries to get in to see him and he can't see them for a little bit. He's like I'm so sorry, This is like your mom's fault actually.

Angela:

I know I was wondering if that would happen. When I was listening to WAP and you mentioned him, i was like Oh, i bet he's like. So you know it took me several weeks to get in with him the first time.

Andrea:

So and that can happen with John too. Like everyone, john, john will sometimes work late just to fit me in, because he knows that, like between the people, like I haven't brought in maybe like quantity of people, but the quality of people that I've brought in. When I say quality, what I mean is is the people who have like hundreds of thousands of followers, if not millions, like I've brought them in and they're bringing in people in. So John does give me a little bit of like priority. If I like need something, he'll be like it's fine, i'm going to get you in, don't worry. He skipped dinner one time and I was like I felt actually really bad. I did not know that he, that he was going to do that. I was like, why did you fit me in so fast? Why are you working so late? And he's like because it's you And I'm like I love you so much, i can't live without that man.

Angela:

I know he's so sweet. So yeah that I had another question about. You seem to put out like the programs pretty quickly, like you think. I'm just curious like where you get the inspiration from, like if it just downloads or if it's something you've been thinking about, and then how you actually execute like recording it and all of that. I would just love to know like how that process looks.

Andrea:

It's so different every time, like some ideas I sit on for a while and some come out immediately. So I'm about to launch a program, more like a group program, probably next week, but I've been sitting on this one. Like the photo shoot in branding was all done in February. It's been a minute. But then WAP was something that came through really fast. Like we had the idea. Branding was created. I started writing copy. Like all of it came through within weeks, i think, and was just a super, super quick thing. So it just depends.

Andrea:

I did a really short program called underdog last year. No, when did I do that one No mantra masterclass. That's what I was thinking about At the end of last year. I was like people kept asking me like how would you word this differently to where the sentence or the mantra had more power? So I would just swap out little words in the way that people were so interested in there. Like God, that feels so different. I was like maybe I should just get on for an hour and like tell people like why I choose the different words and like my thought process behind it. And that was like a $40,000 masterclass. I've not. Most of my masterclasses are like a couple of grand like. So that's not the norm, so some of them come out. I mean, we launched that within. I want to say hours. Wow, like same day. Wow, it was either the same day or the next day, but it was really, really fast. I want to say it was the same day. Wow, so like.

Angela:

Yeah, that course. I took that one too And that really helped with the specificity of, like, what you're saying and then the power behind it, And it made me realize there's so many like affirmations like I am enough, I am worthy that it's like that doesn't really do anything with unconscious, and like just listening to what you were talking about with the affirmations, Like that was really a powerful masterclass. So that's why I was like how does she come up with all of this? Like you know, and just a lot of people will come up with ideas, but then they won't sit down and actually execute or like do the whole you know thing.

Andrea:

So So I ask myself how would it feel to have done it? And if there's energy there in projecting my attention at the end after having done it, then I just do it right away And I literally make every decision using that one filter. How would it feel to have done it? And would it feel good to have done it on this day, this day, this day or this day? And that's how I make every single decision.

Andrea:

So when it comes to my business I actually was supposed to I started launching a masterclass last night. People were buying, before I even ever mentioned it, like they saw it in their affiliate system. If they were an affiliate of mine, they're like Oh, there's a new thing here. They clicked on it and people started buying it. I'd never even spoken a word and sales were already coming in. The branding was done. Everything was perfect. My team had like done an excellent job. We had been working on it for like a week, not too long, but I knew that it was going to sell and I just kept putting my attention on having done it and there was a decline of energy. I was like son of a bitch, i can't launch this masterclass Even though sales were already coming in. I'm telling you that it would have made money. Maybe I'll launch it someday. It's packaged and it's ready.

Andrea:

But what that is telling me intuitively is the time is not now.

Andrea:

It doesn't matter why, it doesn't matter if it would sell. All I know is everything I do in my business if it doesn't give me an increase in vitality and if it doesn't give me an increase in energy, i don't do it. So the reason that I can launch so many programs and I can create things so fast is because I'm responding to what my audience is asking me for, questions that I'm getting, and then I filter it through. How would it feel to have done it? Do I have genuine interest and appeal around doing it and would it feel good to have done? And if I answer yes to both those questions, it becomes a program, it becomes an offer, it becomes a piece of content, it becomes something. But it becomes nothing if I don't get, if I don't have genuine interest and appeal around it and I don't feel an increase of energy around having done it. So that's like if you guys got one thing from today and you, like, filtered your decisions through that, your life would be wildly different.

Angela:

Yeah, i actually from one of your programs when you had mentioned that I do that. even with just like cleaning my house. I'm like I don't want to clean, but it will feel good to have done it. So yeah, exactly Yeah. And then I would love for you to just talk a little bit about. I know you do intensives with people, with entrepreneurs mostly right And so can you just talk a little bit about, like, what that looks like and how people can work with you?

Andrea:

Yeah. So intensives is like all the way, but I wouldn't start working with me through that. I would say start with regulate if you've never done any of my programs like you did. So regulate is like an intro and RRT, but it's through the lens of Andrea in my life. I literally just walked into my kitchen right like a half hour before this podcast interview and I was like why do I hear the sound of my own voice? And I look at my son at our breakfast table and he's listening to regulate. Oh my God, my son's 20 guys. So like to see my grown ass man son like listening to regulate. seeing that my children have access to me 24, seven and like they're still using one of my digital programs, like you know, and it's probably, i want to say, either our number one or number two selling program of all time.

Angela:

Yeah, i was going to ask you, sorry what, maybe like top three, you'd recommend for any like entrepreneurs or aspiring entrepreneurs.

Andrea:

Yeah, i mean like I would say everyone start with regulate, and that whether you're an entrepreneur or not, it doesn't matter. And then I would say, like learn how to learn how to speak more powerfully around the things that you want to do and around the things that have already occurred. And when you keep power and energy at an increase in your body, you're on the ready to do anything that comes your way. I have somebody who just joined like a little secret mastermind that I've had going on. I have like a four week mastermind that I did for a few people and she's like I'm sorry I haven't really been in the group, i've just been like so burnout, and I'm like you know, like that's my social T right, like get your ass to the screen, what are you doing? Like I don't deal with burnout. It doesn't occur for me anymore. It used to be a regular occurrence, it was the norm. Like work really hard, burnout for a month, work really hard, burnout for a month. It was just what I thought entrepreneurship was supposed to be like. I don't deal with that anymore.

Andrea:

So, like regulate. if I were to only pick a couple regulate and masterclass and those are some of my like lower, like entry point financially programs. I would start with those two And then WAP. I think is like WAP or Moray money. I would say, like, probably start with WAP and start to clear any triggers you have around money because you have. if you have those like triggers around earning, receiving, having investing money, that's going to make it a little bit challenging growing and scaling a business. So that's probably where I'd start.

Angela:

Yeah, i'm in a Moray. I love it. I still have two more episodes to listen to, but it was great to take WAP first, for sure.

Andrea:

I don't think it matters either way, like the clearing around the bank account, you'll get in both of them And I know that that's probably like the first thing that people want to clear is like they resist looking at their numbers in the first place. That's really really normal And it's probably the number one thing that I hear from people around their money is they're scared to look. So if you're not scared to look anymore, then you'll look and then we can deal with what is and we can improve upon it. So both programs will do that one for you. But WAP is all unconscious reprogramming. You lean back. You let me handle all of the work. Like you're not intended really to do anything in WAP. I do all of the heavy lifting in that program.

Andrea:

A Moray money is where you're actually actively engaged with your number. So like I'm moving through it with you and I'm going to coach you through it And I'm going to show you how to like increase energy and motivation in your body to do the things you want to do in a way where you're not like sacrificing, you're not like budgeting and you're not doing, you're not being disciplined. I don't believe in the word discipline. I think discipline is what keeps people on those like really rough financial cycles that they really want to get out of. So I say in a Moray, like just because people are financial teachers and they're really, really smart with numbers, doesn't mean they're smart with people. The thing that I'm really smart with is people. Like I know how to get people to move and people make numbers move. So we kind of probably started in the wrong place. Go read all the financial expert books after, but come do a Moray first, right?

Angela:

No, yeah, definitely Yeah, And so so an intensive would be for someone who's gone through some programs and then just kind of want to dive deeper, have some kind of strategy session.

Andrea:

Yeah, i mean I had a girl yesterday and she just wanted to exclusively work on strategy, which is more rare. For the most part, people come with like a really particular thing that they want to clear using rapid resolution therapy, so like there might be something around like a client got really mad at me and now I'm kind of afraid to sell because they're feeling a little. One girl was feeling like a girl had told her that she had traumatized her. So she came into her group program and she's like the way that you just did this traumatized me, oh my gosh. And so we cleared that.

Andrea:

The like fear of cancel culture, the like somebody, somebody talked trash about me. I'm afraid to be seen, like the being seen publicly on stage or like podcast. I clear a lot of like fear on visibility visibility being seen, heard or understood. So stuff like that where you're like I want really fast movement and I just like don't want to. But then I get weird stuff to, not weird stuff, but like non business stuff. Like a girl came in and she's like I'm heartbroken, she had like a bad break up and I was like, okay, let's do that. So that's where most people come to me for, for business related stuff, but personal life can absolutely affect business, so we did need to clear that first so that we could rearrange how she was working on her business as well.

Angela:

Yeah, i'm. I see a lot of people that I'm connected to or that are doing the same thing and they get really stuck with thinking they need to have everything perfect, like the sales page, the you know all of those before they launched, like what would you do you have any like tips for? you know people like that who are just kind of I feel like getting in their own way sometimes.

Andrea:

But Well, the way that I've experienced this in business is the times that I think that I have things perfectly, the launch actually informs me as I go that things need to be adjusted. When I say, the launch says that like people will ask me a question and I'm like, oh, the sales page could be worded differently, like the. It's like a diamond becomes refined through motion, right like you have like the forward and backward movement, and so the refinement phase is so necessary in order to create an excellent experience. But like, what does perfection mean? and can you measure it? if you can't measure it, then I say we don't use that as a filter of launching.

Andrea:

So I look at it as like kind of Wayne actually taught me this. He said I was panicking because Catherine Zinkina wanted to hire me as her coach and I'm like who am I coach, catherine Zinkina? she's a cajillionaire. Like she makes so much more money than I am, and I was thinking like I needed to be able to teach her how to do the thing that she already knows how to do really well better than her. And I was like I can't do that. And Wayne's like what is it that you're trying to do? I'm like I just want to be really great for her and he's like, how do we measure? great.

Andrea:

And I'm like a good question, like she's really happy. And he's like Andrea, when I want to know is, can you cause a useful effect for her? and I was like, yes, he's like that's what I want you to measure causing useful effects for your client and I was like, oh, yeah, i can do that. Okay, fine, then she's been working with me for like I don't know a year and a half now. So, yeah, it's so funny how our cutie pants little mind starts to filter things so irrationally. But it's not that you need anything to be perfect, because perfect is not measurable unless it's like the perfect measurement of a cup of water. That's what, not what most of us are selling, unless you're making recipes that are like equal a cake and you need an exact measurement of something. That's not business sales pages, aren't that? so I say, treat it more like a diamond and make it prettier through the process of refinement, and most of the time my stuff gets better by the end of the launch. It's not so great at the beginning.

Angela:

Okay. But it's excellent by the end because I'm listening to people Right, and so you go back or your team goes and actually changes it as you go along the sales page. Okay, that's cool, i never thought about that.

Andrea:

Sales page marketing. Sometimes even the offer changes a little bit. I'm like, oh, I thought you guys wanted this, but what you really meant was and so then I'll like increase the potency of the offer as I go to, because of the feedback that I'm getting. I do want to just add the caveat on that one. I don't ever change an offer just because somebody wants something different. I change the offer if I feel an increase of energy around having changed the offer. So we go back to the original decision-making filter. That stays true 100% of the time. A lot of people are changing their offers out of fear of no one will sign up unless I. That's not an increase of energy, That's a decrease of energy.

Angela:

Yeah, that makes sense. So I guess one last question would be when did you make your first hire like a virtual assistant or an in-person assistant, And do you wish if you would have done that sooner? I know a lot of people get stuck there deciding when should I hire someone to help me?

Andrea:

Yeah, well, everybody's situation is different. But I was still working a full-time job when I started my network marketing business. So I was only making $250 a week in my business and then I hired someone. At that time This was an acceptable rate. I wouldn't pay anybody this anymore. This was a very long time ago. But I paid somebody $10 an hour for an hour a day. So $50 out of my $250 for that week went to leveraging my time. So I'm always looking for an opportunity to leverage my time.

Andrea:

Now I go back to the lens of like do I feel an increase of energy around having done it? If I do, then I do it because I don't make any decisions from pressure or only pleasure. So if I'm feeling an increase of energy around having hired someone, around having the increase of help, but I have conflict around actually doing it meaning I'm afraid of the money then I go clear the fear with RRT. I'm afraid of spending the money. That's a fear-based decision that is not rooted in love, that's not rooted in intuition. So that's not going to be a very useful way of making that decision. So I use RRT to clear the fear and then I go back to it and I do the thing.

Angela:

Yeah, that's very helpful. Thank you, and so I'll link in the show notes your website and your Instagram. Is there anything else that I should add, or is there anything else that you want to add before we end the conversation?

Andrea:

I move on Instagram. Start with Regulate if you want to come into my world. That program is intended because somebody messaged and they're like how do I keep the stress down so that I can keep growing? So the whole point of that is, if you're a human being and you have stress and that stress is preventing you from taking an action that would feel good to have taken, Regulate is going to really, really support you. So if you haven't done that program, I would start there.

Angela:

Yep, and I've done it multiple times, so it's a great one to go back to. And then also I don't think I mentioned this underdog is great. If you're ever like for me, if I'm needing just kind of like talk, yeah, exactly Like talk, and I'm just like yes, okay, i'm ready again.

Andrea:

So I use underdog for myself, like I'll go listen to my own stuff, but I'm like I'm just not feeling it today. And then I'll put one of the audios in my ear and I'm like, okay, yeah, i'm ready now. It's like you're priming yourself to, you're priming yourself for greatness for the day. That's underdog.

Angela:

Oh well, thank you so much for all you do And thank you so much for coming on the show. I really appreciate your time. Yeah, thanks, angela, i appreciate it. Thank you so much for listening to the 5D CFO podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, please share it and tag me on social media. You can find me at Angela Marie Christian on Instagram, facebook and TikTok. If you haven't purchased my bestselling book Manifestation Mastery yet, it's priced at $0.99 on Amazon for the Kindle version.

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