Dr. Rena's Compassionate Medicine and Entrepreneurial Success

I recently had the pleasure of chatting with the incredible Dr. Rena, a naturopathic doctor from Canada who is truly passionate about the healing power of compassionate medicine. She shared her fascinating journey from a struggling new graduate to a successful entrepreneur, opening her own practice using a unique collective model that empowers practitioners to grow and thrive.

Together, we explored the profound impact our emotions have on our overall health and well-being, as well as invaluable naturopathic health tips. Dr. Rena shared her knowledge on the natural rhythms of our bodies, alternative healing modalities, and how her recent trip to India influenced her approach to healing.

This enlightening conversation is packed with insights, advice, and the transformative power of compassionate medicine, perfect for anyone looking to embark on their own healing journey and achieve ultimate success.

Dr. Rena's Website: https://www.renasainind.com
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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Hello and welcome to the 5D CFO podcast. My name is Angela Marie Christian and my mission is to help entrepreneurs and thought leaders rise to the 5D, where we can find wealth in all dimensions, in all areas of life. Enjoy. I'm really excited to introduce you to my guest today, dr Rena. She's a naturopathic doctor in Canada and she shares with us how the body is an intelligent, self-healing organism and that what we feel impacts our own health and well-being, which is so true. During our conversation I even had some aha moments about things she mentioned that I went and talked to my own doctor about afterwards.

Speaker 1: 0:44

But before we get into it, i just want to mention that I am now accepting founding members into my 5D CEO society. So make sure that you go to the show notes, click on the link and join, because each month we'll have both 3D and 5D calls and trainings where I'll cover everything relating to finance, money, mindset, manifestation. Right now, the founding member price is set at a very low amount of $397 for the entire year, so it's just one payment of $397. You get two live training calls a month, you get RRT healings, guest speakers, guest teachers and you also get core content that I will be recording for you to go through at your own pace. So this is a chance for my founding members to come in and help shape this community. I would love to see you inside. Enjoy Hi Reena, welcome to the show. I'd love for you to tell us about what you do, what it means to utilize compassionate medicine I really loved that term when I was looking at your website and then how entrepreneurs can truly support their bodies and healing.

Speaker 2: 1:58

Okay, so I'm a naturopathic doctor and we focus on root cause of illness all aspects mind, body, heart And we try to look for what is out of alignment and then fix that and then the whole body will fall back into place. I did my schooling in Toronto a long time ago, in 2008. I graduated and I've been jumping around a lot of places Fort McMurray, calgary, kelowna, obviously, and even in I practice in Toronto for a bit too Nice. We all practice a little differently for naturopaths, so it's important to just find the one that you align with and fit well with.

Speaker 1: 2:42

Right. And do you take virtual patients or is it just in person? I take both, oh, you take both, okay. And then did you come up with that term, compassionate medicine, or is that something you learned somewhere? I'm just curious.

Speaker 2: 3:02

So when I just actually came back from India a couple months ago and compassion was a big theme of my trip and then I think before I had empowered medicine and funny enough, i was actually more into the empowerment thing a couple years ago and coming back I feel a lot softer- and so I changed it myself to compassionate medicine. I'm pretty sure the term is out there somewhere, so I don't know if I can take credit for it.

Speaker 1: 3:26

Right Now. It's funny how, as entrepreneurs, we are always pivoting and our business is always growing and evolving with us. So that's beautiful. It's great when you can embrace that instead of trying to fight it and just stick to what you've already done. So that's really cool. And so how do you help entrepreneurs heal? And I know you're an entrepreneur, so maybe if you share with us your experience, like what you learned, any struggles you had and then how you kind of got on your path, yeah, So when I got into naturopathic medicine I didn't really fully grasp what I was getting myself into.

Speaker 2: 4:06

And so I went to Toronto and loved the program, loved the school, came out and then all of a sudden was thrown into the world of entrepreneurship and failed miserably. I was this new grad, really young, didn't know anything about business. They didn't teach us much about business in school at the time And so I made many mistakes, all the things, and kind of just hit a wall. I was in Toronto by myself and my family told me to come back home. So I actually moved to Fort McMurray and didn't even want to practice my medicine. I thought I'd made the hugest mistake because I didn't know how to get patients. I didn't even like and you're a new grad, so you're still learning your craft And so I just actually worked in the city for a year and I just did arts and crafts.

Speaker 2: 4:53

I was a naturopath And people were coming up to me being like, is there a naturopath in town or do you know a naturopath? And at that time, like it wasn't even that popular And I was like, oh my gosh, this is obviously a sign. So I went back and handed my resume out to a limited amount of clinics there and got into one that was run by a couple of acupuncturists and learned a lot about my practice but also learned how to run a business. I paid like a keen eye And in the beginning you kind of just go along with whatever. But a key nine to, like you know how do you, what do you do when to hire new staff, reception, how do you handle patients, how do you book yourself all the things that you start to learn.

Speaker 1: 5:38

And then from there.

Speaker 2: 5:38

it's just evolved. So I worked in clinics for a long time and then just recently last two years I opened up my own practice with another counselor Wow.

Speaker 1: 5:49

And so how does that been?

Speaker 2: 5:51

It's been good. I started to do a collective model, so it's like a rent instead of a clinic style. The problem I found with clinics was they usually do a split, so they do like whatever split you decide, and then there's a cap on how much you can make and expand, and so it really does limit how much you can grow, because the more you make, the more they take, and generally most clinics nowadays will put a cap on that and then you can make more, but it you. I always felt I can always speak for myself that my hands were tied.

Speaker 2: 6:26

And so our model. We thought you know what, why don't we make it like a rental system where you just rent the room, you run your own practice, you do your own thing. There is no clinic, It's just the umbrella of a space, And that way you have free autonomy to do whatever you like.

Speaker 1: 6:41

Yeah, that makes so much more sense, because then you're not. Yeah, let's say what, if you reach that cap, then it's not really encouraging you to like keep bringing in more clients, so yeah, Yeah, generally they'll give you, not not a cap to that you you stop like a cap, that the split changes.

Speaker 2: 7:00

So it's in your favor. Oh, so it's expensive to grow, but it's always. You're always paying into your clinic, i see, unless you, unless you own the clinic, which is different, right, oh, okay, yeah, see I, it's advantageous. You don't have to grab that or just starting, because the clinic will supposedly funnel you patient, but it doesn't always happen And you get the perks of a clinic You get reception, you got a room, you get all the things. And then after a while, when you start getting some traction, you realize, oh my gosh, this is like really limiting.

Speaker 1: 7:32

Yeah, wow, i hadn't even thought of that before. That's an interesting model, but I like, yeah, it makes more sense, like what you guys are doing, for sure.

Speaker 2: 7:42

Yeah, everyone has it differently, so a lot of people still use a clinic model. A lot of people love that idea of a clinic.

Speaker 1: 7:48

Right, yeah, i guess it depends on what, what your end goals are or how you're comfortable running it.

Speaker 2: 7:55

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 7:56

Sure. So I saw on your website that you offer Psyche K and Theta healing, which I remember seeing those on Dr Bruce Lipton's website And I was like, oh, what are those? that sounds so interesting. I really wanted to learn them and I just haven't had the time. So I would be so interested in hearing more about that and then like how you use that in your clinic with people.

Speaker 2: 8:24

Yeah. So I started finding because I worked with the two acupuncturists I learned a lot of Chinese medicine and we do learn that in our program, And so it's something I love doing in practice and I always have that basis. And I started finding people would get better up to a point, so we would do the acupuncture, all the supplements, diet and everything. And then something wasn't fitting right And so I started experimenting and trying to find a way to heal this part that I couldn't touch And it was I call it the heart part, but it's the part some mind beliefs, belief systems, right, and then some emotional beliefs that you would hold on to.

Speaker 2: 9:04

And I first started using Body Talk and I kind of always interweave that into healing, where I talk to the body, using muscle testing and trying to find answers to something that a patient might be blocked towards Maybe they don't understand why they're angry And so maybe we need to go back and see why.

Speaker 2: 9:24

And then, as I got into it, i still felt the block And I think it was just because I had only taken so many levels and other cases. There's got to be something more here. So I learned about Psyche, which is removing a belief system in your body by cross brain integration, and so there's different techniques and it's really cool how it works. It just rewires the brain pretty much. So, basically, when we're in a state of trauma, our brain goes to one side or we drop down to our animal brain, depending on what the trauma is And if you can integrate both sides of the brain while you kind of relive the trauma, then you can let it go and integrate into your body And data healing is just another way of getting into a theta brainwave state And it's very suggestible.

Speaker 2: 10:11

So I do a lot of hypnotherapy and meditation when people have needles in And we just go in and replant certain belief systems. Recently what I started doing actually is probably in the last six months is actually teaching the patient how to do this, not the specific modalities, but I put them into a meditative state and allow them to find the block, get to know it and then remove it, and so that way you have a tool as a patient Right, and so you always have to go to your healer, which I found has actually worked the best out of anything I've done.

Speaker 1: 10:44

Really Wow. That's so cool. I love all of that. So is that? I wonder if that's similar to? I don't know if you follow Dr Joe Dispenza, he's always talking about, like brain coherence. Is that kind of the same thing when you're getting your brain?

Speaker 2: 11:02

Yeah, very similar. It's because heart math is kind of the Institute for brain, right. So dropping someone, so their brain, their heart and their gut are all kind of aligned Oh okay. And that whole healing can happen right. Sometimes if you do all the right things like I have the right diet, you know I exercise and doing all these things, but my body is not healing Like it's better, but it keeps hitting a block Then you know that there's some something else going on that you have to kind of resolve.

Speaker 1: 11:31

Right, yeah, no, that makes sense. I love that you incorporate all of that And I love getting acupuncture and I'm usually just kind of like laying there and I'll do my own meditation. but it would be so amazing if the acupuncturist was actually like doing that deeper level of healing And, yeah, i can only imagine that probably helps people heal so much faster.

Speaker 2: 11:54

Because a lot of the time you don't really even know what your block is, because we're in it. We might have an idea, but we don't really know how to get there. And even if we do get there, we don't know how to remove it.

Speaker 2: 12:04

So there's all these layers right And truthfully. this is just even from my own healing experience and kind of going through certain things, even seeing it with people where they will heal a little bit and then there'll be a block and it'll be like, oh my gosh, is all this grief from the past or I feel worthless and I don't really know what to do about that. And then that has nothing to do with what you're eating or how you're feeling And that in Chinese medicine changes the whole body.

Speaker 2: 12:34

It changes your whole biochemistry And all of a sudden now the liver is sluggish and I'm getting digestive issues and it doesn't even matter what I'm taking anymore. So it has to be addressed. And then, when we're thinking about entrepreneurs, like every entrepreneur says, it's like the biggest self-help journey of life, right? So every block you've ever had will come up in your career, right, and you'll think you got it, and then some new one will come up. So it's really important to address all the aspects.

Speaker 1: 13:02

Right, no, totally. And so if someone's working with you remotely, what does that usually look like?

Speaker 2: 13:09

Remotely, so it'd be over Zoom and the first visit is usually 75 minutes. I take the case. I do always treat the physicals first, because if you're physically dysregulated it's very hard to do the emotional work, whether your hormones are off, thinking about entrepreneurs, usually it's tired and wired, so super tired, and burning the candles at both ends, and now all of a sudden their moods are swinging a lot. They're either very irritated or sad, or all over the place. Maybe their period is off as well. We can't sleep And so when you're in this state, there's no way you can do the emotional work And there's probably. You're probably not doing very well in your business because you're just not open, you're not energetically present. So trying to treat those physicals first and then getting into the emotionals, and usually if it's online, i would just ask someone to lay down and do the same procedure just no needles, and it works just as good. Wow, okay.

Speaker 1: 14:11

And so do you usually do hormone testing or gut testing, or you do that to see where their physical issues are, or Depending.

Speaker 2: 14:18

Sometimes the symptoms are pretty telling. Sometimes hormones are required. I love using the Dutch test, or sometimes the food sensitivity test is nice. It really is patient dependent, yeah, and so I've learned over my career to treat very quickly, like when I was in Fort Mac. It had to be quick and have results really quickly, so there wasn't a lot of time for a drawn out type of treatment plan And, truthfully, in the same age, a lot of people you can tell by the symptoms.

Speaker 2: 14:54

Usually You can usually tell by the symptoms oh, it's something that you're eating, And then kind of pinpoint it down And then when you kind of get to that stuck place, then kind of go to the test if you need to. But it doesn't have to be that way.

Speaker 1: 15:07

Yeah, no, that's that makes sense. I remember when my acupuncturist first did like muscle testing and I was like, what is she doing? I was like, is that magic or something? I didn't understand it until like years later. But she actually I was having a reaction to like some kind of supplement I was taking. So she brought in, she had me bring in all of my supplements and like, did muscle testing to figure out which one was causing? oh, i had a rash. So she figured out which one to take out and it worked. It was just like amazing.

Speaker 2: 15:37

So, yeah, The body has so much wisdom in it, and that's what I love teaching people. I love teaching people how to use this part of their intuition And when you're, when you're so fine tuned to it, you can literally just put it in your mouth and you'll know okay, that doesn't feel right, wow Yeah, this intuition is great because it goes across your life. It goes with business opportunities, it goes with people that you're interacting with or even opportunities to come your way. Does it feel right or wrong for you? And then your body is going to respond, your physiology is going to respond. It's all inter intermixed.

Speaker 1: 16:12

Yeah, no, definitely. And so do some people come to you. I guess they probably wouldn't know this now that I'm thinking about this question. But, like with just belief issues, or is it always a physical symptom to start?

Speaker 2: 16:30

People who know me or because I do a lot of talks and stuff in the community. They'll come in for some upper limiting beliefs maybe, but most people will come in with a physical problem. They'll come in with something that it's usually really simple. It's like I've seen some other naturopaths that didn't work. I have low energy, i don't feel good. You know fertility issues, whatever it is, they'll come in And then I always probe deeper because people just don't think about it, right.

Speaker 1: 16:57

Yeah, i love that. and are people sometimes resistant to like the belief work, or is everyone usually pretty open?

Speaker 2: 17:06

The people that I attract are open, that's good. I've, hopefully actually, since I'm on this, because if you look at my website, i've really tried to cater it to the certain type of person that I'm looking for.

Speaker 1: 17:18

Yeah, Yeah, no, it was clear to me on your website for sure. I was just curious. But do you have like a few tips you could share with entrepreneurs that are listening? Maybe, if they're struggling, like something they can just start doing on their own, you know, while they're waiting to get help, or maybe they'll make an appointment with you, but anything they can just start doing now to help.

Speaker 2: 17:45

Yeah, i would definitely think about what you're eating, because what you're putting in your body is your medicine, and I know that sounds so lame. What do you think about What to do? It's like I want something quick, and the quickest thing you can do is actually change what you eat. It's the hardest thing, but it's the thing that will give you the most results, because, just like a car putting it in gas, it just depends what kind of gas you put in. And it's the same with your body. Our bodies love food. That's living.

Speaker 2: 18:14

And then it's important to understand your constitution. So is your system damp inside like Vancouver weather? Is it really dry? Is it really sticky? These are things that obviously your naturopath can help you with, but you may even have an inkling yourself just by the cravings you're getting. I had a patient today who a very successful entrepreneur actually and he's like I'm starting to age, i'm starting to feel like I'm getting old And in Chinese medicine that's a symptom of kidney end deficiency, where we feel really tight gray hair, back pain, sweating at night, aging really quickly.

Speaker 2: 18:53

It's a sign that you've been burning the candles at both ends And one of the treatments is have a lot of soup and sauce and brothy type of foods to nourish the body, to increase that fluid. And he's like yeah, i've been craving so much soup. It's so weird And I'm like good, because that's exactly what you need to put in your body And you need to have a simple to digest food, because your body will not warm food up and break it down, it just wants instant nutrition, right? That's another thing. A lot of people will lean towards the cold food smoothies, salads and they'll be bloated and tired and they don't understand what's happening When you're that depleted. Your body needs warm, simple, easy food. Especially if you think a lot, which most people do, then diet has to be even simpler and even more bland. It's just like this seesaw of what to do. So there's this diet piece, which I've moved away from the classic anti-inflammatory style more intuitively towards A what are you craving and what are you not craving? your constitution, and then food, specifically for what's going on. So, for example, in an autoimmune case, we want to be really mindful of foods that you're sensitive to, because that's just going to cause the immune system to keep revving out of control.

Speaker 2: 20:12

And then sleep Sleep would be another big thing to think about. How does your sleep hygiene? first of all? Are you like looking at your phone? Is your room blacked out? Do you have that wind down time? Are you meditating before bed? What's the situation here? And then, how is your actual sleep? Are you actually sleeping throughout tonight? Are you not because you're thinking too much And then supporting yourself? I love using herbs. I find that they work really well. Certain supplements will do it too. And probably the third thing, and probably actually the most important thing for me especially, is checking in with yourself. Now, that could be a meditation. That could be like writing. That could just be some quiet time every day for yourself, because your body just needs some attention. Sometimes It's like a friend, so if you don't give it time it can tend to speak really loudly and it tends to do it with pain and it tends to do it with fatigue, like shutting down.

Speaker 1: 21:10

Yeah, wow, those are such great tips. And I'm like, oh my gosh, because sometimes I will force myself to have the cold smoothie because that's what's healthy, and I'm like, well, this will give me energy, but like, what I really want is like warm, like soup or something. So it's like I should actually listen to my body and I'm sure that will resonate with other people too. Listening, yeah.

Speaker 2: 21:34

Please listen. And then we just have to think a little bit about like adrenals, like our cortisol response, right. So that I usually deal with herbs using that, especially one of my favorite herbs like ashwagandha, like if everyone just took that, it'd be great. Obviously, talk to your naturopath about it, but it's a really gentle herb and it helps regulate your cortisol. It helps bring you back to calm And so when you're calm and you're not going like this, then you can digest food and then you can think right. So that's like another way of looking at it. It's like, yeah, I'm eating all the right foods and it's warm, but I still can't think what's happening Right, and it's just that circle again.

Speaker 1: 22:16

Yeah, Wow, That's really interesting. And yeah, I've noticed just in my personal life like when I'm super stressed, my testosterone goes down so far And then, as soon as I'm able to like regulate and get back on track, it's like I have had to take natural testosterone supplements, but then it like evens out and it's just, it's crazy, It's your body definitely speaks And that's why it's really hard to just start supplementing with things like oh my, my progesterone's low.

Speaker 2: 22:52

That's another common one with stress. Right, i'll just take some progesterone, and then, when it levels out, now it's too high and you're getting all these other symptoms. So this is why, with natural property, we try to treat the root. So in the case, in this case, the root would be stress. And so what can we do to help you regulate your stress response instead of giving you hormones?

Speaker 1: 23:12

Right, and we need to, yes, we will, but let's try to the first step first, right, yeah, No, i love that because, yeah, i ended up getting like a pellet in my hip of testosterone and it made me so agitated and like angry for like three months until it dissolved. I was like I do not want to do that again. I'd rather just, like you said, like get to the root and, yeah, so interesting. I love learning about health and it's so important for people listening, because now our mentality is just like hustle, hustle, work hard, and it's like people don't think about how that's actually affecting their health and then it's going to affect your business too.

Speaker 2: 23:56

Yeah, like the earth, our body has cycles and rhythms, and women, hopefully, are more in tune, but sometimes are not. That we have a monthly cycle, like a monthly rhythm, but everyone has a daily rhythm And so there is this circadian rhythm and there's like two different rhythms, let's say, and it tends to overlap in the afternoon. It tends to overlap between one and three, and this is usually a time when we're just begged and we're just trying to push through. It's actually this time right now, on cast, i was just thinking I'm like, oh, and it's the time where most cultures actually will do a siesta. They will, they will actually rest in the afternoon. I love that. They can go on later, right, you know. So they stay up until 10, 11, let's say, and they get up at six and you're like, how do they do that whole day? But they actually take a break for two or three hours in the afternoon. Again, just listening to these natural rhythms and allowing the body to switch over.

Speaker 1: 24:56

Yeah, no, that's, that's key. I know, as you're saying, that I'm like I get up at like five and I go to bed at 10 and I just, yeah, so I probably need to. Yes, i think you can just knit off a little bit or take a break in the afternoon.

Speaker 2: 25:12

Yeah, i think, and I think what you can, only you're the most productive, like after 20 minutes, and after that it just kind of goes downhill for your brain, yeah, yeah. So I, i just I'm like, okay, well, that doesn't make any sense. So either switching the activity or just taking a break, yeah, just because your actual brain will get fatigued, right. And then, truthfully, and then thinking about, i love bringing in that intuitive piece. So if you're, if your center is open and you're really like aligned and your heart space is open and you're kind of tapped into your intuition, what you might notice is you start getting downloads and ideas just in that flow state, just coming in right.

Speaker 2: 25:54

And then you have that principle of like heart mass, where we do the gratitude and the heart centered, breathing or after a meditation. And so I tell this a lot to my patients to like, at lunchtime, just close your eyes for five minutes and just breathe, just do some box breathing, some meditating, and just get grounded into your body again. Yeah, and you'll be amazed at how productive you are. I do pretty much I meditate with my patients, but when they have needles in and I walk out of the room, i'll actually go and meditate myself. Yeah, okay, and it's just amazing because all the information just comes down on and it's like I don't even need to really think. It's just kind of there, you know.

Speaker 1: 26:29

Yeah, no, i totally agree, because, especially you know, being an entrepreneur, and it's like you're always trying to think like, how can I do this or that, the best time is when I just take like some silence, and sometimes it'll come through during the silence or it'll come through right after, just like flowing in and it's like, oh yes, that's what I needed And it feels. I know it can feel difficult to like stop and actually do it, but it does help so much, so, yeah, and so if someone is interested in working with you, where can they find you online? and then, what are your social media?

Speaker 2: 27:06

handles. The best way is online on my website, because all of my stuff is there wwwrinaseinindcom, and I do some workshops around the community. I'm pretty active on Instagram Dr, dr Rina Seini, slash Andy It's a long handle, it's just type of my name and I think I'm the only one Right. I do a mountainous letter and some collaborations or talks in the community. So that's just on my website page. You can find that.

Speaker 1: 27:40

And people can book from your website. Absolutely, yeah, great, and I'll link all of that in the show notes for anyone listening so you can go straight to her website or her Instagram. So I learned so much just by some of the things you said. So I really appreciate you coming on and sharing these things, because as entrepreneurs, we can just get so caught up And I have a really good meditation practice in place but I still catch myself doing all of these things like working way too much and then just being so I call it in the 3D, just like instead of just taking that time to really connect and ground and use your intuition, like you said. So, yeah, i really appreciate that reminder.

Speaker 2: 28:26

I have some free YouTube meditations online, so that's the link on my website And I do something really similar. It's not the same anymore, but it's very similar.

Speaker 2: 28:37

To help you find a block if you haven't experienced that And yeah, i guess my only kind of takeaway from this whole experience so far is when I came back from India. I felt very call to serve people And it was a different take on everything from before, like you're thinking money and growing in business. And I came back and I was like I had this all wrong And I had a really big opening in India for some reason. And then I came back and I was like I must serve And so I started doing a lot of these community events or things like this, like a podcast or anything that I could do to just give people information, and I'm blown away at how things are just coming in.

Speaker 1: 29:24

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 29:24

And so I feel sometimes, a, sometimes, if we get out of our own way and stop trying to control everything But B, if we really listen to what we really feel called to do, i feel like sometimes then your business just starts to flow. because it's just a response.

Speaker 1: 29:40

Yeah, i love that Because it's true when I've had launches in the past, when I'm feeling really good and it's like I'm just having fun and just serving, and it doesn't matter to me financially whether people join or not, i'll do really well. And then if I'm going through a hard time and I launch and I'm feeling like, oh, i really could use this extra money, it's like that needy energy that even in relationships you can feel, and money isn't going to just flow to you when you're feeling that neediness and it's not coming from a place of service and fun.

Speaker 2: 30:17

So Yeah, and I feel like a lot of people don't, because I know I had to go through this myself. I don't even know if people know what it feels like to be worthy or to be abundance, like you do these affirmations and you do this meditation, but you're not really in it, do you?

Speaker 1: 30:33

know what I mean.

Speaker 2: 30:33

Yeah, And when I started distinguishing that and I'm like, oh my god, how do I teach this feeling to someone? And then it was like I don't even need to teach it to them, I just need them to figure it out. And then this is why allowing them to find it it's so different. It's kind of like when you feel really happy, you can't explain that feeling to someone. It's just something you feel. But it's hard if you've never felt worthy or if that's been a struggle right.

Speaker 1: 31:01

Right, yeah, i know that's so true. Yeah, i love that. And if I'll pull those links, or if you want to send them to me from your website the meditation and then the other one then I can link it in the show notes too, so people can just click on it right there.

Speaker 2: 31:16

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 31:17

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 31:18

Thank you so much for this opportunity, angela.

Speaker 1: 31:21

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